In this show opener, Anne and Mark introduce themselves and discuss the purpose of their podcast, 'Confronting the Line.' They explore the concept of confronting the line between transformation and exploitation in personal development and self-help programs. Anne shares her motivation for writing her book, 'Is This a Cult?' and the response she received after its publication. They also touch on the history of Landmark Education (now Landmark Worldwide) and the impact of Werner Erhard (“the Source”), as well as the need for truth and informed consent in the self-help industry. In this conversation, Anne and Mark discuss their experiences as volunteers and leaders in Landmark, a personal development organization. They talk about the reasons they left Landmark and the issues they encountered, including invasion of privacy, control, and abuse. They also discuss the systemic nature of exploitation and abuse within the organization and the need for transparency and ability. Anne and Mark emphasize the importance of individual empowerment and critical thinking when participating in personal development and wellness programs. LINKS Anne's Book https://isthisacultbook.com/ Mark episode on How Did I Get Here w/ Brian Nord https://www.youtube.com/live/Duw-msio9Ik?si=4rnrzKVh0ntEnUQB 6e6g6d